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  • #277399
    G’Luv
    Fleet Member
    Team Player

    So I have had a bit of a windfall selling my hoard of discovery lockboxes ($1million+ each on exchange atm), so am considering a lockbox ship for my Fed Tactical Captain, G’Luv. I would transfer over my current cannon build from the JH Warship for the most part. Pretty vanilla Aux2Bat phaser cannon build – I mixed in the Terran TF Disruptor cannon and using cannon locators instead of phaser locators, so skittles…

    I have it narrowed to the Vengeance (Seems to be the current “meta” but I am concerned it will be a bit slow turning for my less than stellar piloting skills, even with comp engines), NX Escort (Squishy?), or Husnock Warship (for the CRF Trait and 5/3 loadout) which seems about in the middle of the others in terms of maneuverability and survivability.

    This will probably be the only lockbox ship for this character, so hoping to make it a good one.

    Any input appreciated.

     

    #277401
    Paradoxical
    Vice-Admiral
    Team Player

    Call me biased, but the NX is a very fine ship. Squishy? No. It has enough Engineering Console slots and Boff seating to make it most likely the toughest Escort in the game. (My NX with her build on the forums was the first ship in the fleet to do the Midnight Elite challenge)

    As for the Vengeance, a lot of people use it and it is consistanly high in the dps charts, but it’s turn rate makes using cannons effectively difficult.

    As for the Husnock, I don’t know much about it, but I will look into it later and see what I can figure out. (That is, if no one else chimes in here.)

    #277403
    Paradoxical
    Vice-Admiral
    Team Player

    Looking at the baseline stats of the Husnock, it should perform similar to the NX, with lower turn rate and most likely similar dps. Both ships have C:RF boosts, but if you use the NX trait correctly, you will end up with more dps due to the mechanic and having to use C:SV, which will be boosted as well and it is a AoE.

    Choices choices.

    #277414
    Marcase
    Admiral (Retired)
    Founder 44th Delta FleetFleet Shindig Risa 2019Team Player

    Yeah choice should be between the Vengeance and the NX. Both have their charms, really depends on your own playstyle.

    And the turn rate for cannons – that’s always just a piloting issue and can be fixed with some good piloting 😉


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    #277423
    Bazz
    Fleet Member

    Talking of ships.  I wanted to try a proper Torp build but I don’t want to respec my main, so I’ve got this Jem’Hadar at 65 not doing much. I thought, grab the Manticore vet reward, that’s a good boat for torps, evidently.

    Turns out I can’t see the Manticore or the T5 Chimera on my Jem’Hadar.  I tweeted at them, but I might actually raise a proper ticket for this one.  I damn well paid for the Lifetime sub.

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    #277425
    Marcase
    Admiral (Retired)
    Founder 44th Delta FleetFleet Shindig Risa 2019Team Player

    That’s odd. JH’s have that annoying cooldown claiming their Gamma rewards (20 hrs active) but claiming vet ships shouldn’t be an issue.

    Write a ticket, I’ll also pass this on.


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    #277427
    Chanfron
    Fleet Member
    Team Player

    Jems can’t use the Fed Vet ships from what I have read on forums or reddit, no reason give as to why other than same reason roms used to have the same issue till cryptic released the rom vet ships.

    I suspect there will be jem vet ships at some point

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/8xawlz/no_veteran_ship_for_jem_hadar_characters/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/8p4hl5/jemhadar_lts_shipitems/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/8t3m1e/no_manticore_class_heavy_destroyer_for_fed/

    #277619
    G’Luv
    Fleet Member
    Team Player

    Just as a follow up, I decided to go with the NX Escort. So far I am really happy with it.

    My DPS is down a bit from the JH Warship, but I may just need a bit more time getting used to how it handles.  This is definitely one tough little escort – I am getting through things quite a bit easier and not having to monitor my health quite so much.

    Thanks for the advice and tips.

     

    #277622
    Paradoxical
    Vice-Admiral
    Team Player

    No problem. It is my favorite ship to fly for sure. I have a build for it on the forums here that does about 45k dps, all single target damage. And its a tough little ship too.

    #277721
    Briarned
    Fleet Member

    Vengeance is really nice, and if I were to have only one lockbox ship, it would be the Vengeance. It is very versatile. I played with set ups that gave me ~120k DPS in ICA (with my poor piloting, this is very good). I eventually settled on a build that gets 60-70k DPS, but is very hard to kill even while watching TV (QOL choices :). The pets are insane – I get 15-20k DPS from them routinely.

    It does handle like a drunk whale. It’s not really a problem with beams. I have seen builds with cannons, but you really have to be good, IMO. I also have seen people use DBBs quite successfully. You can turn it into a nice single target all gank setup.

    BTW, I know it’s not on your list, but have you looked at Miradorn? It’s a lot of fun.

    #277748
    G’Luv
    Fleet Member
    Team Player

    The Miradorn looks like a great ship and shares a console set with the Husnock. Something to consider for the future.

    For now, I have decided to just go into a holding pattern on any big purchases and wait for the T6 rep items and Discovery content. I expect there will be a new “meta” and various ways Cryptic will separate me from my zen.

    In the meantime, I am trying to focus resources on helping the Colony to T5 and just futzing around with what I have.

    #277750
    Marcase
    Admiral (Retired)
    Founder 44th Delta FleetFleet Shindig Risa 2019Team Player

    Smart move, I’m sure there will be a number of Discovery era/themed ships in the near future, and I even expect some ‘current’ era ships as well – like we just saw with the new Recon Destroyers. I know there are a few more on the drawing table and I wouldn’t be surprised that those will pop-up soon(tm) just so Cryptic has its hands free for DISCO.

    And thanks with the help with T5 Colony – it’s been long road, getting from there to here, and it will be a little longer still. The resources still required coupled with that double 5-day cooldown is beyond annoying.


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