A question about “multi-fleeting” before submitting an application

[Aelfwin]

Hello ,

From a long time player standpoint, I would like to know if there are exceptions to the “we do not allow multi-fleeting” rule (seen in the ‘Rules and Regulations’ portion of your website) — from two points if view :

– I have 3 fleets that I created for the additional bank space afforded by fleet banks . These fleets are led by toons that I usually just use to gather resources with . I have a specific toon in mind with which I would like to join the 44th , one that is pretty much equipped already , so I’m not here to get gear .

– I’m also a 3rd tier (from the top) Officer in what has sadly became something of a zombie fleet , in one of the oldest fleets in the game — and despite the ‘somewhat zombie’ status , I still have an affinity to said fleet , as I’ve been a member for about 9 years , which is a long-long time .
But I am looking to try out a more active fleet , hence my interest in an application .

If you have questions about the ‘zombie fleet’ that I’m still a part of (name of the fleet etc.) , please send me an in game mail  @Aelfwin . No recent drama there FYI .

Cheers !

 

[Marcase]

Hello Aelfwin, thank you for considering the Mighty 44th.

As you correctly pointed out – and thank you for reading the rules – the no multi-fleeting rule has been around since the beginning of the 44th Fleet. It was established so that members wouldn’t have to divide their loyalties between fleets. Plus in the past, We’ve seen where people stay in one fleet for the gear, but only hang out and run TFO’s with friends from their other fleet.
We look for members that choose to join us, also really join us in-game, on this forum and our discord.

I do acknowledge the huge investment in time and resources you’ve put in your 9-year fleet, which no doubt is substantial, but unfortunately we cannot bend the no multi-fleeting rule.

However, since promotions (and fleet store access) in the 44th is based on time in the fleet, what we can offer you is the usual 2 week trial period where you can experience the 44th and decide if you wish to join us afterall.

Our policy is that when you join the 44th and after the 2 weeks trial period reach Lieutenant rank in the fleet, you will have access to ALL the max Tier fleet holdings and their bonuses and unlocks without reservation – with practically no limit to alts in either Fed or KDF fleet (within reason of course). I think this might balance any amount of resources you may have invested in your previous fleet over the years.
That banking fleet is something we can talk about.

If still interested in joining the 44th you can fill out the regular application form and be invited within 24hrs by one of our sterling Vice-Admirals.

Cheers

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[Aelfwin]

Hello Marcase,

Thank you for your extensive reply.
I’ll be frank , I’m torn between saying “ok , so that’s a ‘no’ then” , and going for a similarly extensive reply .
As you did me the courtesy of extensive reply , I feel that I have to oblige with the latter , hope I won’t bore you to tears ! 🙂

> the no multi-fleeting rule has been around since the beginning of the 44th Fleet. It was established so that members wouldn’t have to divide their loyalties between fleets.

I perfectly understand that , however I don’t think that that (as STO stands at the moment in terms of fleets) is an issue .
I’m happy to donate EC , Dil or crafted items (within reason) to whatever project I might be asked / expected to .
I’m not looking to “park a non-active toon in the fleet” , nor as I previously stated, am I looking for any specific gear .
(I understand that the Dranuur ship gear is a bit better then the Iconian sets that I have on most of my ships , but the Iconian sets serve me fine for the current Meta , as I no longer PVP that much)

> Plus in the past, We’ve seen where people stay in one fleet for the gear, but only hang out and run TFO’s with friends from their other fleet.

I was planning to put this part in my fleet application — but this is the reason why I am looking to branch out , namely to find other people to run missions with with some sort of regularity .
Being in a semi-zombie fleet made the PUG life ok for years , but I’m looking for something of a change in that regard .

I have also been subscribed to your “44th-diplo” chat channel for over a month (maybe two ?) in order to have a look/see as to the kind of ppl that were in the fleet , as that was an important element to my application .
In that time I tried to answer a few noobish questions from members relatively new to the game ( I usually leave advanced advice to others ) , and I had @rdm1958 shoot me a friend invite as he couldn’t place me in the fleet roster (I told him that I was not yet in the fleet) .

> Our policy is that when you join the 44th and after the 2 weeks trial period reach Lieutenant rank in the fleet, you will have access to ALL the max Tier fleet holdings and their bonuses and unlocks without reservation – with practically no limit to alts in either Fed or KDF fleet (within reason of course). I think this might balance any amount of resources you may have invested in your previous fleet over the years.

I’m not sure if I contributed to it , but I think that there’s a misconception as to my affinity to my current fleet .
It has nothing to do with resources, past or present .

For me it’s part nostalgia (for the good times and the bad) , from having been ‘poached’ by Cryptic for two Dev’s , to the times we had a fairly popular video podcast , to some of the “drama wars” , to me telling the Officers :
“I’m gonna be an Officer , when this fleet is dead !” aaaand then they promoted me anyway . 🙂
(I really didn’t want to become an Officer)

And currently, it’s also because of the lack of participation from the current upper ranks — which , because I play at unusual hours, as I work in shifts at all hours of the day — this often leaves me to get PM-ed to start a project , or to invite someone new to the fleet (even after I tell them that socially we’re pretty much dead) .

I don’t mind the occasional “here for the gear and then leaves” fleet candidate (as currently, STO itself is in a semi-zombie development mode) — because while we enable gear / ship purchase access right off the bat — that means that some leave after buying what they want , some also stay , and help us chip away at the Lvl 4 Fleet Colony (on the Fed side) — we pretty much stalled out on the KDF side at the moment .

> promotions (and fleet store access) in the 44th is based on time in the fleet, what we can offer you is the usual 2 week trial period where you can experience the 44th and decide if you wish to join us after all.

Ok , so like I said , I’d like to give the Mighty 44th a try , for social reasons .
If I have left anything out , that would be that I’m also an “essential worker” (no covid slacking for me sadly 🙂 ) , and aside from that I also have some family obligations that also take priority over any gaming obligation .
Speaking of ‘gaming obligations’ , another view to my affinity to my current fleet would be that STO is my first (and only MMO) , and while I certainly have met ‘gamers’ that change fleets as if they were nothing special , I see any fleet as a mutual investment , which is why I have given some thought to the type of fleet I’m looking for .

> That banking fleet is something we can talk about.

Ok, thanks .
However if I’m not allowed to also remain in my current fleet (with some toons) , then perhaps I shouldn’t make an application to the 44th , as I value your time as well as mine , and I don’t want to waste your time .
Plz let me know what you think .

Cheers !

• This reply was modified 4 years, 6 months ago by Aelfwin.

[Marcase]

I have to follow our rules, and can only offer you the two week trial. During that trial you also have access to our lively Discord server where you could ask for further info, but I’m afraid that won’t change much.

If you’re looking for an alternative fleet, I can recommend any fleet in our Armada, and in particular Dragons Lair, which is an active and like-minded fleet with both Fed and KDF factions. Check out their discord here https://discord.gg/TAWcvtu

All the best, and should you reconsider, we’ll leave the light in the hangarbay on 😉

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